tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2248881149749925934.post359814355750697795..comments2024-01-02T10:09:58.744-08:00Comments on Preaching to the choir: When did "pretty sound" become synonymous with "I hate America"?Shttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12429147325673256508noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2248881149749925934.post-13559491053199043152009-07-08T17:59:41.002-07:002009-07-08T17:59:41.002-07:00BellsforStacy, the process to convert to Islam is ...BellsforStacy, the process to convert to Islam is very straightforward - essentially you declare your faith and belief in one God and prophet Muhammad as his final messenger. 3 times, in front of witnesses.<br /><br />bada-boom, bada-bing. I am not sure where you have sourced your information, but if you could provide authentic Muslim sources on conversion that show the contrary, it would be appreciated.<br /><br /><i>And in Islam, you are Muslim if you are father was Muslim. You can not change that. </i><br /><br />False. There are apostates in Islam, just as there are in Christianity. You can leave the religion. Again, can you quote the Islamic source for your statement? I am curious to see where you have done your research.<br /><br />Islam is not passed to you through your father. Muslims believe that you are Muslim unless/until you decide not to be. This is similar to the concept in Christianity.<br /><br /><i>paint over the atrocities committed upon women (mostly) because they'd rather get along.</i><br /><br />I think it's really important to separate religion versus state here. If you don't, then it becomes valid to say "Christians decided to fight in Vietnam" as opposed to "Americans", or "Christians are responsible for the murder of Jews in WWII" instead of "Hitler's policies".<br /><br />Just a thought.<br /><br />I like how you raise some questions, and urge you to do additional research.<br /><br />With peace,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2248881149749925934.post-78222884690453462152009-06-07T17:50:20.958-07:002009-06-07T17:50:20.958-07:00I totally meant to come back and respond on Friday...I totally meant to come back and respond on Friday, but I got all distracted with the big workload. Sigh. I really need to finish this case.<br /><br />I don't have any problem with that line from the speech. I definitely don't see it violating the First Amendment in any way for the president to think the executive branch should lead the way in fighting intolerant attitudes and negative stereotypes of entire groups. I do think he would say the same thing about Christians in the right circumstance.Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12429147325673256508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2248881149749925934.post-26740078188326548902009-06-05T07:48:37.356-07:002009-06-05T07:48:37.356-07:00Let me clarify on the Muslim dad thing ... to be C...Let me clarify on the Muslim dad thing ... to be Christian all you have to say is I believe Jesus Christ is the son of God and died for my sins. And you're Christian.<br /><br />To be recognized as Jewish or Muslim, you have to be born into a Muslim family (or Jewish family). Jew's have a name for people that convert and they are considered differently.<br /><br />Anyway ... I don't know why I wanted to add that. Sorry for such long comments!BellsforStacyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02032366148476863438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2248881149749925934.post-43218790753755599052009-06-05T07:46:21.922-07:002009-06-05T07:46:21.922-07:00I'm kind of taking this off topic ... but I...I'm kind of taking this off topic ... but I'm interested in your thoughts.<br /><br />Here's my issue, it's with this line:<br /><br />"And I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear."<br /><br />This is NO WHERE in his job description. In fact, the constitution expressly separates him from this.<br /><br />He made several good points - that we would fight against extremism, that we, and most sane people, are against the murders of innocents. But this line above ... it bugs me.<br /><br />Because he would never say it about Christianity.<br /><br />Also, when he said I'm the Christian son of a Muslim. I understand what he was saying, you understand, people in this country to who religion is like a favorite color (I'm red, I'm blue, I'm Jewish, I'm Baptist, etc) understand. But in Islam, religion is very different. And in Islam, you are Muslim if you are father was Muslim. You can not change that. I just think the speech writer should have been more careful with that. It shows a lack of understanding of the region and the principles of the religion.<br /><br />That's nit picky ... but it's true.<br /><br />And listen I have no problem with him going over there and trying to make friends. Bush did it and said a lot of the same stuff. I just, like I said on my blog, hate that so many developed countries go there and paint over the atrocities committed upon women (mostly) because they'd rather get along.BellsforStacyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02032366148476863438noreply@blogger.com